PMC Minutes for 2009-06-24

Attendees

Rob
John

Rainey Fellows - iMatix
Pranta Das - Cisco
Colin MacNaughton - Progress

Hanno Klein - DBS
Andreas Moravec - DBS

Rafi Schloming - RedHat

Roshan D'Mello - Credit Suisse
Mark Blair - Credit Suisse

Alexis Richardson - RabbitMQ

Matthew Arrott - TWIST

Apologies

Carl Trieloff
Paul Freemantle
David Ingham
Robert Grieg

Agenda

1-0 Update
1-0 vs 1-1 Scope
User SIG
Budget
AOB

1-0 Update

Updates have occurred on the data types and format
More generic way of representing application level types

Mark would like presentation on Security

Other updates

Matthew continues work on mapping AMQP and John Day networking models
More people interested in joining Message Format discussions
Offer to bring existing message format technology to AMQP

1.0 prioritisation

Agreement that on security:
in scope - client to broker authentication, SSL
out of scope - message signatures, end-to-end authentication

Rafi: issue with kerberos and re-keying
no way to re-key once ticket expires

JOH: suggest we don't standardize on Kerberos for 1-0, but later

MA: We have guys looking at this
Are we standardizing on this? We should be careful on this
X.509 works better across organisational boundaries

RG: it's not an AMQP or Kerberos problem... it's a SASL problem

RS: it's an issue with the way SASL integrates with protocols with security layers with rekeying

JOH: need to create a certainty what we are doing for 1-0... If there is a workaround in SASL then we should use that.

MA: For 1-0 we use SASL and then the community can decide if we need to solve the Kerberos problem for 1-1

JOH: for 1-0 we need a type system is needed for selectors, but not necessarily a whole message format.

RS: There are going to be multiple message formats.

MA: Agree with RS

RS: You need a format-id and the bytes

JOH: Need format for properties.

JOH: Would need a format for management

RS: would be good to have something that can represent a "Map Message"

RG: management in 1-1?

JOH: Agree management should be in 1-1

Security
peer to peer Authentication and encryption in
end to end MACs 1-1
DTX 1-1
Management 1-1
Failover Exchange 1-1
Message Format 1-1
Properties 1-0
Global Addressing - MA would like to set up a call

RS: should amqp$transfer be in 1-0

RG / JOH : We should have a position paper

MA: Free from week beginning 7th

Set up meeting with MA/JOH/RG/RS pre-meeting to discuss architectural model
Then want to have meeting on the modelling of the protocol on PMC

Funding

John still working on funding proposal - report back next month


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